Question regarding PIP Application

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  • Cartini
    Cartini Online Community Member Posts: 1,107 Trailblazing
    :s
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    Wibbles said:
    poppy123456 said:
    Wibbles said:

    "If you use a wheelchair or mobility scooter, "Please answer the question by telling us how far you can stand and move WITHOUT using it"

    The reason they ask that question is because of Activity 2F... "cannot either stand or move, aided or unaided more than 1 metre". https://pipinfo.net/activities/moving-around
    Anyway, we are continuing to go round in circles again so for this reason i'm out. Good luck with your claim.

    Also:
    Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided. 12 points
    You can't state only one sixth of the relevant descriptor! 

    What i quoted was descriptor F and not descriptor E!  You really do go out of your way to try to cause more arguments don't you. I give up! :s
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    poppy123456 said:
    Wibbles said:
    poppy123456 said:
    Wibbles said:

    "If you use a wheelchair or mobility scooter, "Please answer the question by telling us how far you can stand and move WITHOUT using it"

    The reason they ask that question is because of Activity 2F... "cannot either stand or move, aided or unaided more than 1 metre". https://pipinfo.net/activities/moving-around
    Anyway, we are continuing to go round in circles again so for this reason i'm out. Good luck with your claim.

    Also:
    Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided. 12 points
    You can't state only one sixth of the relevant descriptor! 

    What i quoted was descriptor F and not descriptor E!  You really do go out of your way to try to cause more arguments don't you. I give up! :s
    Yes but descriptor E is relevant instead 
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    I give up too!!
    Some people just can't help themselves 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    As advised by Calcotti 
    calcotti said:
    Wibbles said:..The regulations are 9 years old and must have been superceded several times - including 24th January 2022..
    The regulations have not been superseded. I quoted from the current version
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/377
    They are of course open to interpretation, which takes us back to
    calcotti said:..we are only going to continue to repeat that we have different interpretations, hence my earlier comment that there is nothing to be gained by going over it all again.


  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    edited April 2022
    poppy123456 said:
    As advised by Calcotti 
    calcotti said:
    Wibbles said:..The regulations are 9 years old and must have been superceded several times - including 24th January 2022..
    The regulations have not been superseded. I quoted from the current version
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/377
    They are of course open to interpretation, which takes us back to
    calcotti said:..we are only going to continue to repeat that we have different interpretations, hence my earlier comment that there is nothing to be gained by going over it all again.


    So you keep on saying...... 
    But, I prefer the facts 
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    edited April 2022
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,000 Championing
    Wibbles said:
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?
    Yes.
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Online Community Member Posts: 124 Contributor
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?

    Wibbles said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Also looking to the worse case again
    If I am not offered high rates on both mobility and care components - could you please confirm the complaints procedure?
    Starting with the form to check on the assessment......to discover what the assessor actually wrote...
    I really hope that this is not necessarily but prewarned is prearmed 
    You will be lucky to get anything at all, The majority of people on here get refused, Then it's the whole process of sending a Mandatory Reconsideration, If that's refused it's a Tribunal, I received 0 points from the Assessor, Currently waiting for a Reconsideration, Been waiting over 2 months now.
    75% of claimants received an award and 29% received maximum mobility and care in 2021 
    Well I waited 11 weeks for a decision, Asked for a MR, Got given 2 points, Currently awaiting a Tribunal date, The whole process has been a year up to now for me.
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?

    Wibbles said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Also looking to the worse case again
    If I am not offered high rates on both mobility and care components - could you please confirm the complaints procedure?
    Starting with the form to check on the assessment......to discover what the assessor actually wrote...
    I really hope that this is not necessarily but prewarned is prearmed 
    You will be lucky to get anything at all, The majority of people on here get refused, Then it's the whole process of sending a Mandatory Reconsideration, If that's refused it's a Tribunal, I received 0 points from the Assessor, Currently waiting for a Reconsideration, Been waiting over 2 months now.
    75% of claimants received an award and 29% received maximum mobility and care in 2021 
    Well I waited 11 weeks for a decision, Asked for a MR, Got given 2 points, Currently awaiting a Tribunal date, The whole process has been a year up to now for me.
    OK just because you may have been treated unfairly - doesn't mean that anyone else will be
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Online Community Member Posts: 124 Contributor
    Wibbles said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?

    Wibbles said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Also looking to the worse case again
    If I am not offered high rates on both mobility and care components - could you please confirm the complaints procedure?
    Starting with the form to check on the assessment......to discover what the assessor actually wrote...
    I really hope that this is not necessarily but prewarned is prearmed 
    You will be lucky to get anything at all, The majority of people on here get refused, Then it's the whole process of sending a Mandatory Reconsideration, If that's refused it's a Tribunal, I received 0 points from the Assessor, Currently waiting for a Reconsideration, Been waiting over 2 months now.
    75% of claimants received an award and 29% received maximum mobility and care in 2021 
    Well I waited 11 weeks for a decision, Asked for a MR, Got given 2 points, Currently awaiting a Tribunal date, The whole process has been a year up to now for me.
    OK just because you may have been treated unfairly - doesn't mean that anyone else will be
    I didn't say you would did I?, Your very argumentative, Actually sick of receiving emails from you being negative about everything on other posts!
  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Connected
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?
    Will you be asking for a copy? Be interesting to see what the assessor has said. 
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Online Community Member Posts: 124 Contributor
    MarkM88 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?
    Will you be asking for a copy? Be interesting to see what the assessor has said. 
    I did and it was a load of absolute lies 😂 Don't know how a 'Nurse' can assess someone over the phone who has Autism and Anti social personality disorder, Baring in mind the assessment lasted 30 minutes, I'll be attending a Tribunal and I'm confident I'll win 😙
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    MarkM88 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?
    Will you be asking for a copy? Be interesting to see what the assessor has said. 
    I didn't realise that I could at this stage.... 
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Online Community Member Posts: 124 Contributor
    Wibbles said:
    MarkM88 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Received by TXT
    "We've received the written report of your PIP assessment. We will write to you once we've made a decision on your PIP. As a guide you should hear from us within 8 weeks. You don't need to contact us unless any of the details you gave us have changed. Thank you."
    I assume that this means that IAS has sent the report to DWP ?
    Will you be asking for a copy? Be interesting to see what the assessor has said. 
    I didn't realise that I could at this stage.... 
    I asked for a Assesment report a few days later, And it arrived within 7 days, I guess it'll give you a rough idea of the points you will score.
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    edited April 2022
    Who do I ask for the report ?
    DWP or IAS
    I have not been assessed yet (as far as a face-to-face or phone assessment is concerned)
    And is there a name for what J am after - ie) Form XYZ ?
  • ChrisH90
    ChrisH90 Online Community Member Posts: 124 Contributor
    Wibbles said:
    Who do I ask for the report ?
    DWP or IAS
    And is there a name for what J am after - ie) Form XYZ ?
    I called DWP Pip Enquiry line, I told them I've had an assessment and can I have a copy of the report, They should send it out in the post.
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    edited April 2022
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Who do I ask for the report ?
    DWP or IAS
    And is there a name for what J am after - ie) Form XYZ ?
    I called DWP Pip Enquiry line, I told them I've had an assessment and can I have a copy of the report, They should send it out in the post.
    I have not had an assessment yet
    Is the PA3 form not produced  until AFTER an assessment ?
    Or does this imply that they won't assess me .. hopefully - and it has just been a paper exercise ?

  • MarkM88
    MarkM88 Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Connected
    ChrisH90 said:
    I did and it was a load of absolute lies 😂 Don't know how a 'Nurse' can assess someone over the phone who has Autism and Anti social personality disorder, Baring in mind the assessment lasted 30 minutes, I'll be attending a Tribunal and I'm confident I'.
    A nurse is perfectly able to assess you, they are a healthcare professional. 

    They do not need to know anything about any condition as PIP is not awarded for a diagnosis. 

    They are assessing your functional ability in relation to the descriptors. 

    Wibbles said:
    ChrisH90 said:
    Wibbles said:
    Who do I ask for the report ?
    DWP or IAS
    And is there a name for what J am after - ie) Form XYZ ?
    I called DWP Pip Enquiry line, I told them I've had an assessment and can I have a copy of the report, They should send it out in the post.
    I have not had an assessment yet
    Is the PA3 form not produced  until AFTER an assessment ?
    Or does this imply that they won't assess me .. hopefully - and it has just been a paper exercise ?

    If you have had a text to say they have the report then yes it sounds like you have had a paper assessment. 

    You can call the PIP enquiry line and ask for a copy, they say it should arrive within 5 to 10 working days. 








  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,918 Championing
    edited April 2022
    Why does it take 8 weeks to the next step??
    Surely if IAS have made a decision (presumably both high) then they should let me know sooner?
    And under what circumstances would the final result change? 
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