UC managed migration guide

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 2,331 Championing

    I don't think I will ever get my head around this I'm support group sorry poppy I know you explained million times so on support group your get 276 a fortnight?

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    As contributions based (CB) is only paid for 1 year, it’s highly unlikely that someone in the WRAG would be claiming part CB. It would usually be all Income Related.

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Community member Posts: 1,004 Pioneering
    edited October 23

    If any part of your Support Group ESA is Contributions Based, then upon migration to UC it will convert to New Style ESA and be paid at a rate of £276.40 a fortnight.

    £598 would then be deducted from each monthly UC award.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    That’s Support Group contributions based/New style.

    As your ESA includes the SDP and EDP then at least part of it will be Income Related.

    If you want to know what your claim is made up of you can ring ESA and they should be able to tell you whether it’s all Income Related or part contributions based.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 2,331 Championing

    It includes SDP it's a mind field how did you learn so much wish I knew I call them tomorrow thankyou

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community member Posts: 403 Empowering

    I'm hoping mine won't come yet, as I'm waiting 100 years for this Esa 50 form to be sorted. It's ridiculous why they sent so many out, if was going to be back logged. I'm hoping mine will be paper based as I sent enough evidence, like my pip review was

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 2,331 Championing

    I just don't want to deal with it even getting letters for housing benefit stressed me so much fingers crossed it comes must be very stressful

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community member Posts: 403 Empowering

    Yes , I rang up the dwp and there you press 1 if you sent a esa form in, it just wait until contacted. I think changing the assessors as well has caused part of it, as that had to sorted out.

    Liz Kendal should put Dwp shou all migration on hold until the dwp is reformed.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Community member Posts: 2,331 Championing

    She something else when they got in thought yes thier roll it back Nope .... so overwhelming isn't it I know millions people gone through this but with our struggles it really brings you right down I think your be hearing soon everytime letter drops on mat I got one eye open so dangerous living on nerves like this let's hope you hear soon let's hope tomorrow a better day

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 96 Contributor

    hi all , I’m going to be migrating over to UC in a few weeks time I’ve picked a date to suit me and have untill 20th November to do it . So I will do it on 9th November . I’ve spoken to CAB and they have told me once I’ve completed the application to then sign into my journal and ask if I can be paid every 2 weeks , will this mean on my very first payment I will only get half of the money ? Thanks

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community member Posts: 3,300 Championing

    Yes, your first payment will only be for half the money. Also please be aware it is twice a month, which isn't quite every two weeks. There will be a few extra days before the second payments in most months.

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 96 Contributor

    I was wondering if I should write in my journal after my first payment could I have the payments twice a month . Do you think that’s the better way to do it ? Thanks

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    You can't request an Alternative Payment Arrangement (APA) until after you've received your first payment. Please also be aware that if they agree to this you'll be waiting 1 month for your payment but then you'll only receive half of that payment. The other half will be between 14 and 17 days later. It can be very difficult to manage your money when it's first set up.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/universal-credit-alternative-payment-arrangements/alternative-payment-arrangements#types-of-alternative-payment-arrangements-apas

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 96 Contributor

    CAB never told me this , so after my first payment I can request for 2 payments ? Thanks poppy

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    It seems like you can request it anytime but payments won't start until after the end of your first assessment period. Yes, you can request this yourself. I'll copy and paste some useful information from the link above.

    3. More frequent payments

    Universal Credit is paid monthly. But in instances where it is identified that a claimant is finding it difficult to budget monthly, they can have their Universal Credit divided over the month to be paid more frequently - twice a month or, exceptionally, 4 times a month.

    These can only start from the end of their first assessment period and would, in most circumstances, be half their Universal Credit award, with the remaining half paid 14 to 15 days later.

    In exceptional cases they could be paid 4 times a month, for example a quarter of their Universal Credit payment after the end of the first assessment period and the rest paid at 7 to 8 day intervals.

    In cases where their Universal Credit includes housing costs, this should be accompanied by a managed payment to safeguard their home.

    Who can request a more frequent payment

    If the claimant is making the request, this can be by:

    • using their online Universal Credit account
    • talking to their work coach or case manager
    • phoning Universal Credit on 0800 328 5644

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 96 Contributor

    thanks for all the information. This is very helpful . I’m so stressed about my bills coming out of my bank and not having the money for them whilst I wait for the first payment of UC

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    You're welcome. I see you are migrating from Income Related ESA and housing benefit. Both of those will continue for 2 weeks and then stop, so you won't be without money. Tax credits stops as you've now submitted the claim for UC.

    You can also request an advance payment from UC but this does need to be repaid back and your future UC payments will be reduced.

    Were you in the Support Group for ESA? If so then please make sure you put a message onto your journal to tell them you are in this group. Please do not provide a fit note, even if they ask you, which they may.

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 96 Contributor

    yes I’m in a support group for ESA . I might ask for an advance payment so I request an amount or do they offer a certain amount ? Thanks

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    There will be a maximum amount you can request once you've had your first appointment. It will be based on your maximum UC entitlement.

    This may seem rather low at first but the amount will increase once things have been verified on your claim, such as ESA Support Group, rent and any children you may have on your claim.

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 96 Contributor

    that sounds ok . Thanks so much for your help I don’t have to worry now about bills . CAB worked it out that I would gey £1617.95 plus extra £231.52 a month or how they pay it . My esa now is £481.10 every 2 weeks . I don’t know what how I would’ve got through the bad anxiety with all your help on here . Thank you