Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November
Comments
-
Have you ever considered emailing Kendall about the idea of volunteering for the disabled instead of work for those unable to hold down a job, myself included now. Labour haven't exactly got a brain cell between them, and they don't understand what we need.
1 -
apple, that comment was written by kitsmum on 30th November then quoted by MadMilan - page 9
0 -
I was reading through this thread and it should be reminded that tact goes along way.
It's very easy to become insular when subjects like this come up because money pays the bills, buys the food ect because nobody else will but we're all in the same situation in our own ways.
1 -
Well that documentary on benefits last night, didn't watch it . Has according to daily rag sorry mail caused outrage . Reading the comments we are all scroungers. They focused by accounts on a single mum who walks with a stick. That she scared to get a job because she will be worse off, about getting more on benefits than working. So it begins
0 -
I haven't been able to watch as its not yet live on catch up.
But the white paper is about getting Britain working and the sickness benefits is a small part of the overall picture.
In order to go back into the workplace I am going to need training and support. I suspect that person featured has limited capabilities, school hours and sitting down. But what job is going to pay her what her benefits do, because she has additional needs not because she's necessarily better off. It comes back to my other thread of how many people are scared to make changes in case they can't afford to live with the cost of living as it is.
1 -
It is an understandable fear. Many folks might think I'm well off because I'm no longer entitled to income-related ESA or other mean-tested benefits. I have PIP and CB-ESA and falling interest. Meanwhile, the cost of living continues to rise. I'll always have the same fears as anyone regarding benefit legislation, though I'd love to do a little volunteering as and when I can if only from home. Zipz
0 -
Labour are doing their best here at misdirection, they are portraying its about the right support, targeted support, getting rid of binary yes/no, but its all really about one thing.
They need to find 3 billion pound savings on the social security bill. So there might be some schemes setup, some courses, maybe they will employ some health specialists, might be for show, might be because they care, dont know. This looks to be the first phase that is in this white paper.
But ultimately the underlying big change will be a target to move lots of people from LCWRA to either LCW or FFW. As that will save them about £5000 per year per person they move. It will be done under the pretence the people they move are capable of working in the current job market. Consultation on this next spring. Scope is finally making public comments against this, alongside Rowntree foundation also. Kendall describes removing £5000 annual support and introducing sanctions regime as providing extra support.
Savings might be achieved in other areas to make this less aggressive, the WFA changes might be affecting this, the frozen LHA rates may do also.
Timms should have been DWP secretary. Kendall is despicable.@Andi66 documentaries are usually a sign changes are coming as they soften up the population for changes, I honestly dont understand why these people agree to be on these documentaries. What were they expecting other than to be portrayed as scroungers?
Also Kendall doesnt even respond to her own constituents, doesnt hold surgeries for them either, I would be surprised if she responded to anyone from here emailing her.
4 -
The problem with 3, it is the same old. DWP have been doing this strategy for over a decade. I had a conversation with a DM from DWP over the phone (yes I know its bad to talk to DM's directly), and the fairy tales coming out of her mouth how the DWP have transformed many employers to start employing people who are unemployable, when I asked her to give me some company names, she couldnt even name a single one. When they come out with this, it makes me think they not serious and its just marketing talk. If they were serious trying to get severely ill people back to work, they would be creating working from home flexible hour working. Bringing the workplace to the home instead of moving ill people to a work place (which is now outdated working practice). Government is the biggest employer in the country, NHS, Education, Army, Police, Tax, Civil service, and they cant create any such jobs? You could as an example bring 111 back in house and make all the positions from home.
LBC did similar recently it was one of the female ministers, she couldnt answer the question on working from home job vacancies, she couldnt answer a question on what health professionals DWP are employing to provide tailored support, and she stumbled on the question of how many disabled people have been asked for their input on the reforms. It gave a total impression of ideas being drawn up for an end goal without concern for the repercussions.
2 -
I remember the late nineties, in the early days of home computing/ Internet. I contacted major dot.com companies in the hope of finding work from home. I was well qualified… back then. I was also far less disabled. If my endeavours had been successful I'd have managed up to a decade of employment.
0 -
0
-
How do you think they shift people from LCWRA to LCW or FTW?
- Changes to Descriptors
- Making it harder to meet Descriptors and score points
- Abolish LCWRA
0 -
It really is scary t
0 -
It's all smoke and mirrors they will change criteria and that will be it already hard enough to get faze out lwcra pip being main health benefit how can ellen clifford go to judical court if they haven't said what going to do with wca ???
2 -
What about those that can't work because of mental illness. Makes me so angry people on media shows saying that work is good for you which for some it is. Mike Parry and the bloke on GB News is another saying that you just have to have a bit of CBT then you'll be fine, what a joke.
Personally I've had anxiety and depression my life, mum an addict when I was born, saw child psychiatrist when I was 5 and many times through my life, covered in scars etc, what about those people who's life is a daily struggle
3 -
I don't think they are taking about working off you can't, they are looking at working if you can. So many people are on lcwra and simply get left for years without any input at all from any services. It's no wonder people are left feeling anxious and depressed, it could look as if their life is over.
1 -
This sums it up so perfectly. At the point where my DLA was ended and I had to apply for PIP, I was probably at the best point in my life, had a good balance and I had begun to feel that I had a path and a future plan which would put me almost equal with my peers.
Then I went through a year of PIP and repeating over and over again what I couldn't do, while they mangled it and misquoted my evidence, and it destroyed all of that confidence and made me actively afraid of the DWP.
It also interrupted my career path and training to the point the path is now no longer open. COVID ended the last hopes of that but the time wasted appealing PIP was the real death knell of my career hopes. I couldn't do all the additional stuff I needed to because of how much energy and time went on my appeal and that I had to be within range all the time as they were saying tribunals etc could be called within any two week period at the time. So very restrictive.
PIP is a very negative benefit misrepresented in the media, as is the process of applying/obtaining it. Every time someone says 'it's easy', I shudder, because I remember those twelve months of hell.
1 -
It'It's empowering to have PIP when you are awarded it, but it's a very taxing and demoralising process to apply for it.
2 -
28 million in benefits go unclaimed every year we all in this country could have good life's
2 -
Unclaimed benefits is at least £19 Billion.
https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/missing-out-%C2%A319-billion-benefits-support-goes-unclaimed-each-year
2 -
What do they do with this unclaimed money, why can't they plug this so called hole with it?
0
Categories
- All Categories
- 14.2K Start here and say hello!
- 6.8K Coffee lounge
- 63 Games den
- 1.6K People power
- 95 Community noticeboard
- 21.8K Talk about life
- 5K Everyday life
- 52 Current affairs
- 2.2K Families and carers
- 819 Education and skills
- 1.8K Work
- 431 Money and bills
- 3.3K Housing and independent living
- 882 Transport and travel
- 652 Relationships
- 61 Sex and intimacy
- 1.3K Mental health and wellbeing
- 2.3K Talk about your impairment
- 845 Rare, invisible, and undiagnosed conditions
- 893 Neurological impairments and pain
- 1.9K Cerebral Palsy Network
- 1.1K Autism and neurodiversity
- 35.5K Talk about your benefits
- 5.6K Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
- 18.4K PIP, DLA, and AA
- 6.5K Universal Credit (UC)
- 5K Benefits and income