Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

I welcome the debate. DWP and any other govt agency, or person, are first required to ask you if you are suicidal,

'Do you want us to contact anyone on your behalf, or a friend,

before they ring 999 for an ambulance.

Then they fulfil their duty of care, and the least restrictive option

(if you do not know what this latter phrase means please Google it). Thanks.

Also I have been suicidal many times in my life, but believe with mindfulness practice over decades, that these feelings will either dissolve, or become so short in duration, that they will not matter; I will not suffer. Meditation and mindfulness practices over 25 years have significantly reduced them already.

Further, the police can no longer do sections 135 and 136 of the Mental Health Act 1983. However someone who calls 999 if they think you'll kill yourself, will mean an ambulance will first arrive and paramedics will knock on your door.

If ambulance staff cannot talk to you, if you do not open the door, then they can ask the fire service to break down your door.

However you cannot be sectioned from a public place, or your home, by the police, asnd forced against your will to a psychiatric hospital.

As I have had 15 friends and acquaintances, in total who died in the 'loony bin' from various forms of abuse, a psychiatric ward is the last place I consider tp be a place of safety.

And many people said police intervention only re-traumatised them anyway, that often times people, with good intentions, no doubt did not listen to their views (which is against the human right to dignity and respect, even if they disagree with your views)

I would NEVER want anyone friend, or foe, or stranger to section me; it is my life and no one else's - and thus I have written to Leeds 999: fire, police and ambulance that they should never visit me at home, it is none of their business, and I am fully responsible for my life or death.

That is is for me to work out not them, whilst their concern is kind, it may not fulfil my needs.

We all need friends, true friends, and if we are negative to see a more sunny side of life, and I do not say that lightly; I was beaten for years by 5 members of my family, but there were also 6 other causes of trauma. We need time, space and support, and reading to work out the right insights and views for us.

Look after yourselves and do notake any S***!

You could write to the DWP, PIP section, that you are not going to attend any of their benefit assessments, as it re-traumatises you, and say why assessment trigger what distresses. And the DWP has a clear duty of care not to cause harm to persons/ to promote good health, and you have a Right to Life, Article 2 of the ECHR.

However:

please copy the letter to your MP, then its an official complaint, Google ''Find your MP, UK'';

go to an advice agency such as a Citizens Advice Bureau, or a disability, or mental health project, giving benefits advice, to help you write your letter.

Good for you for being assertive, making a stand, the more claimants of benefit who do this the better.

There is no point living in fear; sometimes it is right to stand up and be counted.

We all have a Right to Privacy and Family Life, which is Article 6, I think, of the ECHR (I have a damaged, traumatised memory from being hit with an iron bar years ago). So the DWP cannot invade your mobile fone or interfere with your post, for example or call, round to see you unless they have a good reason for an appointment. Also when you fill in forms for benefits such as ESA and PIP, please do not give your telephone number or email, as they could then see where you are going, what you are doing etc. Save yourself a lot of bother, as you do not have to give government all of your contact details (Right to private, and family life, ECHR).

I strongly advise people to Google ''the right to privacy, U.K., and benefits laws and regulations'', as different rules apply to some groups of people.

However please ensure you Google ''the Human Rights Act 2000, U.K'' as it came out of Britain's membership of the European Court of Human Rights

And the ''UN Charter on the Rights of Disabled People''

It is too early for me to take the government to court over their oppression of vulnerable, disabled people like myself. I shall wait for a copy of the proposed law 'Getting Britain Working'' coming soon, c/o my MP Richard Burgon. Everyone is entitled to an easy read or Plain English summary of any government information.

But if you also are feeling encouraged and assertive, and want to join me in a class/group legal action - the more the merrier.

Look after yourselves.

AKRE you advise well re legal actions, but if there is a legal, and moral, case to answer, someone has to do it?

Well not sure if this means anything , but the government are putting off social care reforms until 2028/2029.

Might be a sign they are behind in all they planned .