Upcoming changes to benefits
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I read somewhere this morning that one thing they're considering is allowing people to go back on their benefit easily if they trial going to work (sorry, I think it was that or maybe keeping it whilst they trial work but I'm sure it was the former). Either way, if this happens please get it in writing although even that is spurious.
My experience, albeit yrs ago in 2010, told a very different story. I was in receipt of DLA and guaranteed (verbally) that I would still receive it if I started nurse training. Was in Uni for months before going to wards. The DLA was stopped within two weeks of starting at Uni.
'Luckily', the Uni were helping me via Disabled Support and that was an absolute lifeline.
I couldn't work in addition to Uni as mum had cancer and was supporting her but had 3 part time jobs in my 2nd and 3rd year and got tax credits.
Fast forward after qualifying in 2013 to now. Ten years nursing, caught Covid three times at work - no PPE at nursing home and then when moved to another job after being dismissed for being off ill was sent from CLEAN surgical area to help on ward where I had 5 patients whose Covid tests came back positive New Years Day, 2022. I wasn't allowed a respiratory mask like colleagues as I'd not been FITT tested despite me chasing the team to test me so wore a blue mask. Caught Covid for the third time.
One of the worse aspects of this was I'd refused to go to ward but was forced/ had no choice (i should have stood my ground) ; I was working in clean area and other staff too were sent to Covid areas and allowed back to clean area where patients were having surgery, the next day, despite not knowing at that point if they'd caught Covid. They had. Talk about putting patients at risk.
In Nov 2020 it affected my intestines that has never gone/got worse and 4 diagnoses of bowel conditions. In January 22 it affected my lungs and has, along with c 20 other health conditions, completely decimated my health. Long covid which these two words don't even begin to express the reality, brain, lungs joints and bowels affected and what I like to call 'peripherals', eyes, ears 🙄).
Sorry for rant but my point is I would not trust ANYTHING the DWP or government say. I don't trust the NHS after my experiences either (far, far worse than what I've detailed here including whistleblowing) and will, in general, avoid going in unless I am literally on my last legs. One of the saddest realisations is my experiences - especially at work - worsened by health, likely irreversibly, and I didn't know that at the time.
I am so angry when I hear 'taking the mickey' type of comments. I know absolutely who was taking the mickey out of me leaving my health so poor I'd be euthanased if I was a dog.
All I am saying is please take care, please question and challenge anything and everything. Please protect your health as very best you can. The saying if you don't have your health you have nothing is so true in my case. I have to now try and galvanise my anger, and sadness, into action. I don't know what that is yet but I'll summon it up from somewhere.
Much love to everyone on here ❤️
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Like everybody else on Scope I have been trying hard to not get overwhelmed with fear as it is not good for my physical or mental health but it is difficult to avoid the fearmongering in the news. I have been switching the news off the second it starts and trying to avoid reading newspapers.
We don't have definite details yet, we do know cuts are coming and we know they are likely to be the harshest cuts disabled people have ever faced. It is really hard for me to even begin to wrap my head around how I will manage financially if the cuts are as harsh as predicted.
I don't think my husband will have any other option but to return to work full time and I think it is a point we are missing, I think this is also a push to put disabled people in such an untenable position that their carer sees no other option but to return to work, I know I am fortunate to even have that as an option as I know many people will not have that option as they are single.
Many carers will be in the same situation and need to return to work which will save the government huge amounts of money through not paying them carers allowance and taking lots of disabled people off of Universal credit completely.
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Bbc1 news this morning I saw headlines saying U Turn on pip disability due to labour Backlash backbenchers fingers crossed guys
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They're only talking about back downing on rate freezing. There's no mention of them backing down when it comes to stricter eligibility, which is the real issue.
They are definitely targeting people with mental ill health and disabilities (those of us with autism etc.) primarily - I think that's their goal here as these issues are mostly affecting younger people who they believe are shirking work.
I'm not so young anymore (39) and I work full time which is made possible, in huge part, to the PIP I receive. Without it, working would be incredibly difficult for me probably due to the fact that the cost of living is so high regardless but also that most jobs really don't pay very well and when you add to the fact the increased likelihood of sickness (and not being paid for being sick) that comes with disability, it's pretty obvious why we need it.
Like you all, I am trying not to worry too much about it but I do believe they will push this through as they seem determined to penalise a specific group of people.4 -
What a load of ****
Freezing PIP is the least of people with disabilities problems, they need to leave lcwra alone as this benefit is a life line for disabled people
Roll on Tuesday so we know once and for all, and hopefully if she goes along with cutting lcwra there will be uproar from mps
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I agree. Flaws in how it would all be implemented have been evident from start. It’s a way for Reeves to implement a nationwide tax plan.. sacrifice the disabled first then tax the masses. Morgan McSweeny and empty eyed Paddy are the architects of these sorts of shockers.. neither of them have any loyalty to a party or political ethos. They’re a couple of Dominic Cummings? I was going to watch Laura Kunesberg on the Beeb but don’t know whether I have the stomach for it.. probably scripted!
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I read starmer coping trump with cutting things. They're doing welfare cuts as well. Plus he's got mcsweeny whatever he's called advising him. Diane Abbot who is against the cuts was shut out of the meetings.
Where is that joke of a mp Timms ? He should be standing up for us. We should email him and tell him and reeves that people can't see a future. I've read on a few sites about people not wanting to be here. Honestly I'm struggling with this. I had few years ago left with nothing because of dwp. I managed to getba part time job then ,but unable to now
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I’m not going to bother watching Wes Streeting on Kuenssberg but I’m following along on the BBC app’s live reporting so I can post the highlights of what’s said if anyone wants!
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Starting off strong…
Laura asks Streeting: as a Labour politician, did you get into politics to take money from the poorest?
He says we don't want to take money from the poorest people in Britain, and adds he's a product of the welfare system. He says he grew up in a council house and says a state education gave him "every opportunity".
Streeting says that one in 10 people are off sick from work. He says people who can't work need support, and calls for more people to get back to work.
Link is if anyone else wants to follow along
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She's asking the wrong question. We are least worried about the PIP freeze. She's not very well informed is she
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InInteresting article in an Irish newspaper recently relating to McSweeney. Seems that he is afforded the same guru status within Labour as Cummings once was with Johnson. Like with ****, the reasons for this are not exactly apparent. The term 'rose without trace' springs to mind with MM.
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Well it's finally got the better of me, I have been spiralling ever since I read about the changes. I felt I was making progress and if you had asked me a few months ago I never would have thought it would be the government that would cause me to start self harming again after going so long with out it happening but it's my last resort when I feel there is no other way to release the anxiety which builds to a level which is unbearable. They have no clue how this effects people. Now I'm battling with the other issue of thinking if I pick up a drink it will make everything feel better but this will be the end of me if that part of me wins, after being sober for 3 years I feel like all the hard work is just being ripped away by these people who have no clue what it's like to live with mental health/addiction. Just want them to say what's happening already so we all know where we stand
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Laura follows up by pushing on the specific details of who might be excluded from welfare payments - for instance, people with disabilities who cannot work through no fault of their own.
Streeting replies that the government wants to ensure that those who need the most help, get the most help.
He says that he's been working with Liz Kendall, the work and pensions secretary, to integrate employment support and mental health support into care from the NHS.
Streeting is pressed again on the question of whether the government will freeze Personal Independence Payments
Streeting suggests he hasn't seen these plans and warns people not rely on speculation.
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Suspect today's shows will be pretty dull. They'll be waiting to see how today's leak landed after yesterday's leak bombed. Then assessing their MPs mood tomorrow (not good is my prediction!)
As I say, this does not seem to be the work of evil masterminds.
As for today, I'm going to enjoy the sunshine. We probably all should.
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This one is unbelievable. Didn’t Stride and Sunak make these exact same statements just a year ago?
Laura now brings up recent comments that there are an "over-diagnosis of mental health problems" and asks Streeting if he thinks too many people are not working because they are experiencing what are essentially normal feelings.
The health secretary says he believes there is an over diagnosis, adding he thinks that prevention is important so that we can prevent people from developing mental health issues in the first place.
He adds that he's seen great work at Maudsley Hospital in South London, where employment support is combined with mental health support, which Streeting adds can be "really powerful".
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Just because the government want to cut LCWRA doesnt mean it will happened fast or at all, their will be legal cases on this and mark my words this will end up going to high court and with failed risk assessment.
Again this won't happened fast.
Once we get better idea of the green paper next week i think action will be taken then.
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Good morning everyone,
I am expecting the bad news of cuts this week plus a sweetener that the pip freeze has been shelved. My question is seeing as the labour cuts/plans go further than the Tory’s who lost in court , can this be taken to court and if so how long could this be delayed for ? Plus right now it’s a green paper, how long for it to become a white paper and go to the vote ? They seem desperate to bring this forward asap but in reality is it possible?
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Remember don't be fooled on the pip freeze u turn people! Its the discrimination of people with mental health problems which will lead to a change in criteria! So those with certain mental health problems like ADHD, Depression and Autism will no longer be eligible to receive PIP and LCWRA! They're also planning a cruel 34% cut to LCWRA after inflation that's roughly £128 gone each month! That cannot be allowed to happen! It will lead to homelessness, self harm and deaths!
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Prevention? And how exactly do you prevent autism??? Because they're targeting autistic people here too. It's all very weirdly timed too, not long after they're now pushing for assisted dying. Very convenient.
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That’s Streeting off now. He also said there’s a “risk of disruption” to patient care during the reorganisation of NHS management.
So… how exactly are people meant to get well enough to work and “prevented” from getting iller when this is going on???1
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