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Do PIP take into account oxford knee score?

jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected
just getting more evidence to support my appeal (MR) do PIP take into account the oxford knee score questionnaire I did at the consultants office? Thanks :-)

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  • MisscleoMisscleo Member Posts: 646 Pioneering
    Cant wait to find out what this is !
  • jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected

    The Oxford Knee Score (OKS) is a Patient Reported Outcome questionnaire that was developed to specifically assess the patient's perspective of outcome following Total Knee Arthroplasty. The OKS has subsequently been validated for use in assessing other non-surgical therapies applied to those suffering from issues with the knee.[1] The OKS consists of twelve questions covering function and pain associated with the knee. It was designed and developed by researchers within the department of Public Health and Primary Health Care[2] at the University of Oxford in association with surgical colleagues at the Nuffield Orthopaedic Centre.[3] The benefit to this questionnaire is that it is short, practical, reliable, valid and sensitive to clinically important changes over time.[4]

    The Oxford Knee Score is owned, managed and supported by Isis Outcomes, an activity within Isis Innovation Ltd, the Technology Transfer Company for the University of Oxford.




  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Any self assessed assessment such as this or the depression & anxiety ones are exactly that - the patient's own assessment.
    Additional evidence would be required to support these types of assessment as well as the impact the issues cause on a daily basis. 
  • jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected
    Yadnad said:
    Any self assessed assessment such as this or the depression & anxiety ones are exactly that - the patient's own assessment.
    Additional evidence would be required to support these types of assessment as well as the impact the issues cause on a daily basis. 
    That’s a shame as the consultant had included it in their letter to the GP. Feel like I’m loosing at this :-(
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    jules13 said:
    Yadnad said:
    Any self assessed assessment such as this or the depression & anxiety ones are exactly that - the patient's own assessment.
    Additional evidence would be required to support these types of assessment as well as the impact the issues cause on a daily basis. 
    That’s a shame as the consultant had included it in their letter to the GP. Feel like I’m loosing at this :-(
    Of course it will be recorded and copied to the GP. But the fact still remains that it is a self assessed score. 
    I have filled in dozens of the Depression & Anxiety ones so much so that it would be so easy to manipulate the diagnosis. Should the DWP be accepting such a document as evidence knowing that?
  • jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected
    Ah ok, sorry to ask so many questions it’s just hard to find any more evidence to send off as I haven’t seen a medical professional since my f2f and they have all my hospital letters/paper work leading up to it. 
  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,289 Disability Gamechanger
    PIP acessments are accessing the claiments abilities to fit the descriptors laid down in the PIP acessment procedure. You the claiment are being accessed as what you can or can not do, and why not, and the accessor will and does award points according to your answers given or your abilities proven at the acessment regardless of any medical evidence submitted with your application form or at your acessment. There are exceptions where the acessment is paper based where the medical evidence is so proven of the claiments inabilities to do or meet the descriptors that an award is based and given on the evidence submitted with the applecation. The acessor on completing the acessment writes a reports and recommendations, opions which are sent to the decision maker at DWP who usually awards the PIP award using the acessment report for guidance.
  • jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected
    @wilko I know this, I was adviced to send in my evidence with my application, which I did, all 147 pages lol as my problem isn’t as clean cut and there is operations I can have but they will then cause different problems etc etc. But I haven’t been awarded what I and my doctor thought I would be, and when I phoned up about my MR I was told by the phone handler that the more evidence I can send the better, I’m merely asking if they would consider this as the consultant had written to the GP stating my condition is getting worse and my oxford knee score was this, I’m just wondering if it’s worse getting a copy of said score
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,906 Disability Gamechanger
    You need to seek proper advice from cab or welfare rights.
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  • jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected
    You need to seek proper advice from cab or welfare rights.
    Thank you x 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You need to put the MR request in writing stating what you disagree with and where you think you should have scored those points and why. 
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,979 Disability Gamechanger
    PIP assessments ought to involve a high degree of self assessment so there’s nothing wrong with this as evidence. However, it’s not binding and the weight given to it depends on what other evidence is submitted whether anecdotal or medical.

    The more important point though is that it’s meaningless unless linked to specific activities and full explanations given of incidents to illustrate the argument for points. So, putting evidence about knee function in is fine but how does it link to cooking, therapy, dressing, bathing, mobilising? The fact us that just describing the incidents related to those activities would probably suffice. 
  • PinPin Member Posts: 139 Pioneering
    Good luck  <3 don’t apologise for asking questions, it’s exacyly what the forum is for.
  • jules13jules13 Member Posts: 63 Connected
    Pin said:
    Good luck  <3 don’t apologise for asking questions, it’s exacyly what the forum is for.
    Thank you xxx
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