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Update for everyone with learning difficulties

ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
I just thought I would share this. before someone already states it I will mention it now. I no it’s not about the condition it’s about how it affects them ect ect. but I just wanted people to no that the DM said learning difficulties was the main reason I got awarded it regardless of what I can do ect ect. he said not all but most people that have special needs get it. he said there was other factors he had to take into account but going to a special needs unit and having ADHD / Personality disorder made it more straight forward, as it stated the things I can’t do. just wanted to share my story. 

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  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,990

    Scope community team

    Thank you for giving us an update on your story @ChloeHibbert
    I hope the DM helped you understand the decision better. 
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  • ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
    @Cher_Scope no problem hun. Yes he did. he said it’s how it affects you not what diagnosis you have” but he did we have a legal obligation to take into account the claimant has special needs. I didn’t no they did but he said we do. u didn’t think they would tbh @Cher_Scope
  • Cher_ScopeCher_Scope Posts: 3,990

    Scope community team

    No, you have learnt me something there @ChloeHibbert It's good to know how DM come to their decisions isn't it?  I hope you are having a nice Sunday!
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,574 Disability Gamechanger
    At the risk of confusing things there is no such legal obligation. The legal obligation is simply to weigh all the evidence. 
  • ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
    @mikehughescq but he did say he made the decision based on many factors and the big factor was you went to a special needs school though. that’s what he said to me on the phone? 
  • AwesomelorenzoAwesomelorenzo Member Posts: 109 Connected
    So are you saying everyone with learning difficulties automatically gets it?
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,574 Disability Gamechanger
    @mikehughescq but he did say he made the decision based on many factors and the big factor was you went to a special needs school though. that’s what he said to me on the phone? 
    Yes but all that’s being said is that this was one of the factors which swung an award your way. There’s no “legal obligation”. Indeed that’s a very odd misleading phrase to use. 
    So are you saying everyone with learning difficulties automatically gets it?
    And no, that is not and cannot be the case. 
  • ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
    @mikehughescq we can agree to disagree. I no for a fact people with special needs can get this benefit full stop. it’s not even a hard benefit to get if you do your research well enough. so many people that “blag” it get it without loads of evidence anyway. regardless if they have them issues or not. and fair play to them, if you can get it by talking loads of BS fantastic. as the ones that don’t need it get everything on a plate. I’m not going to argue with you just stating what I think. and even if i didn’t get it I would take it to a tribunal and rinse them for every penny anyway 👌 but I’m made up I got it and knew straight I would. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm not sure what you mean by "the ones that don't need it get everything on a plate" PIP isn't means tested so it doesn't matter how much money a person has if they have a disability that affects their daily life they have every right to claim it.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,574 Disability Gamechanger
    @mikehughescq we can agree to disagree. I no for a fact people with special needs can get this benefit full stop. it’s not even a hard benefit to get if you do your research well enough. so many people that “blag” it get it without loads of evidence anyway. regardless if they have them issues or not. and fair play to them, if you can get it by talking loads of BS fantastic. as the ones that don’t need it get everything on a plate. I’m not going to argue with you just stating what I think. and even if i didn’t get it I would take it to a tribunal and rinse them for every penny anyway 👌 but I’m made up I got it and knew straight I would. 
    There’s nothing to disagree about as far as I can see.

    Can people with LD get PIP? Yes.

    Are there circumstances in which they get it “automatically” or because of some legal obligation? No, the one exception to this is arguably terminal illness.

    Is medical evidence always required? No, 52% of awards sew to people who provided  no medical evidence, but, that shouldn’t be confused with “no evidence”. Evidence can be anecdotal. 

    There is no evidence of wide scale PIP fraud. The exact opposite in fact and what you “know for a fact” is simply untrue. A number of people like to brag about how they beat the system and how simple it is but they are just that. People who brag. I’ve yet to see a single claim of any any substance backed up with evidence of fraud or anything like it. 
  • ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
    @mikehughescq all I am saying is the DM maker said the special needs played a big factor into him making his decision. he also said we have to take into account your special needs. You seem like a guy that knows his stuff. much more than me .... I don’t want to argue with you as I appreciate your advice and think you give people great advice on here. all I am saying is he did say we take special needs / ADHD into account. and the system is just on its ass,  I no a lad that I have reported has got full PIP he’s a pschpath and has ADHD and something else sorry can’t spell. and it’s been over 9 months and still he’s driving around in a new car. DWP haven’t done anything. p me right off ! 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,998

    Scope community team

    Hi @ChloeHibbert
    While people with learning disabilities can get PIP, it's not guaranteed. It depends on how a person's condition impacts them personally. So two people with the same condition will not definitely receive the same award. 

    Senior Community Partner
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,574 Disability Gamechanger
    I no a lad that I have reported has got full PIP he’s a pschpath and has ADHD and something else sorry can’t spell. and it’s been over 9 months and still he’s driving around in a new car. DWP haven’t done anything. p me right off ! 
    That new car may be as a consequence of a Motability award. It may be because of an inheritance. It may be because of criminal injuries compensation. There are a million reasons why someone has a new car and I’m not a fan of judging people when we simply don’t know their full circumstances in just the same way you would be upset of someone judged you. Comparing ourselves to other people when it comes to benefits is just fuel for prejudice.
  • ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
    @mikehughescq I agree. do you work for the DWP? seem to no a lot. ! must do loads of research hun 
  • ChloeHibbertChloeHibbert Member Posts: 47 Listener
    @Adrian_Scope that’s true I agree hun. he did say though a big factor that he taken into consideration was I was in a special needs unit “
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Someone with a lot of knowledge on the benefit system doesn't mean they work for DWP. Infact, i wouldn't trust anyone from DWP to give me advice on benefits. A lot of the time their advice is totally wrong.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,574 Disability Gamechanger
    No @ChloeHibbert I do not; never have and never would work for DWP. I’m very much on the opposite side of the fence.
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