The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

Is there anyone our there with real expertise who can advise on the Green Paper proposal for a Contribution based unemployment insurance benefit?

The Green Paper stared that would replace CB-JSA and CB-ESA for two years only.

I claim PIP and CB ESA. I'm not eligible for UC. After two years on the new benefit I'd be dependent on PIP alone. I couldnt scrape by. My savings would last long.

Looking on various sites there is conflict as to whether the new benefit is for new claimants or for all CB-ESA recipients.

We really need an expert answer.

53. Unemployment insurance would be a new non-means tested entitlement for people who have contributed into the system. It would be created by replacing contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) with a new single entitlement, paid at the current ESA rate (currently £138pw) and will be time-limited. This would provide stronger income protection during periods of unemployment for those with a recent work record, while revitalising the ‘something-for-something’ contributory principle in the working-age system. People claiming this would be expected to actively seek work, with easements for those with work-limiting health conditions.

54. Alongside levelling up the rate, this change would end the indefinite entitlement to contributory ESA for those assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity (for new people claiming). Those unemployed after the time-limited period would be able to claim UC, depending on their personal circumstances. We believe this reform would align with the removal of the WCA, by offering a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those who may not be entitled to PIP and therefore not entitled to the health element of UC.

You're welcome! Really hope it helps 😊

Thanks So much Jen...really appreciate you taking the time to answer.

It's a never ending bombardment. It's nothing to do with a 'moral duty' (as they said) - it's getting money from easy targets. This is not going to save money at all. There will be housing issues (I rent my place so don't know what's going to happen there) the NHS will be overloaded with people getting ill (and probably worse). They will have blood on their hands 😠

Hi ,

Can someone from scope please confirm or deny this piece of information I’ve just read please. According to what I read the descriptors for pip such as needing help with washing and going toilet etc will not count unless it’s outside professional carers , not family or friends. Is this true ?

I wonder what this means about 'new people claiming'. They're really needs to be more clarification on this. However I have my suspicions that all new/existing claimants will affected either now or down the line. I haven't filled in the response to the green paper yet. However I did email two MP's today. One of them who stood up for us today in parliament (Colum Eastwood).

Where did you see this ?

Every minute it's getting worse.....I'm struggling with all this today

I have the 4 points and 16 points in total. 10 year award, enhanced / enhanced. It seems like people in this category will be left alone and won't have to be reassessed

I don’t think it would mean that but just a loop hole . How many have a live in professional carer . Hopefully it’s not true but we need scope to clarify this .