The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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So worried I just migrated from ESA support group to Universal Credit LCWRA now this,will it mean I will be migrated onto Universal Credit Health automatically as an existing claimant or will I be declared fir for work immediately in 2028? I know it's three years ahead but the worry is killing me
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Although I'm worried about all of this happening I really don't think a lot of it will go through to become law.
I think it'll all be watered down and that new 4 point rule will be abandoned.
There will be changes but they probably wont be as bad as we think they'll be.
We seem to have a lot of people on our side now who don't agree with this government.
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Even though the consultation has omitted asking direct questions on certain aspects (eg, do you think it is fair to fix qualification for PIP daily living at a 4 point criteria), I hope everyone remembers that it is still an open text box and you can include whatever information you like.
I filled it in answering every question with something relevant to what they were asking then gave them a couple of extra paragraphs of wider context of what claiming PIP is actually like and the impact of losing it for people in work, the burden on the healthcare system if people who cannot work lose their benefits and so on. Stuff they didn't ask for but which we are the best placed to know.
So even if you think the most important things aren't being consulted on, don't lose the opportunity to put those experiences in the consultation. The worst they can do is ignore it - but if it's not there, they can continue to pretend it doesn't exist.
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Don't forget Labours relocation plans - they want to relocate all disabled people to a remote Scottish island - so they can keep us all together.
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I was wondering if she put the new 4 point rule in as a bargaining chip, so she can compromise later and take it out if she comes under pressure from her MP's.
That's what they do sometimes when changing the rules and laws.
Watering some parts down to get other parts through.
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Hi, how do you know if you are legacy esa or new style esa? I was changed to cb Esa around 2019 from long term incapacity benefit. Also does anyone know what is happening with indefinite dla to pip timeline now? Now I'm so stressed and worried I'm about to lose it all
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I so hope you are right I am not sleeping with the dread of all this
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Thinking of you all, feel very low today. Giving my little Jack Russell a big cuddle, he’s all that keeps me going bless him.
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If we are reassessed for lwcra will be under same criteria I'm the same noway I could go to job centre no way for some reason I feel calm was the same when sent pip form back I didn't even think of it and got paperbased goverments like to install terror I think they threw everything at the green paper in hope of some of it getting in speak to your sons doctor and say the effect its having on both your mental health I'm keeping a diary if it will be 3 years worth so be it they cannot do half of this it's very cruel I know exactly how you feel 2023 took me down I'm scared but not terrified wait till impact statement comes out 2 million people that's without thier cares thrown into poverty no way not happening they have broken all human rights thier proposals are wicked almost laughable I know it's hard it's really hard try not to over over think I say that because I do and it sends me down we are in the here and now these are proposals this has to go through stages and anyone can see it's a cost cutting discrimination at it's finest activists been dealing with DWP for years we have lawyers who are experts in welfare working along side charities unions the government been trying this for 30 years hold tight it's a rollercoaster but will be ok I really believe we will. Xx
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cant think why the rise in claimants
We had the worst PM at the worst possible time #covid
and now Labour act like confused sheep we are lagging behind other countries.
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Broke down crying now I am so low 😢
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I said that claimants are going to rely heavily on the social care system, NHS and charities due to the fall out of this. It will cost the government more money in the long run if these proposals go ahead.
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@Bigboblee50 and @Martinp Like you, I'm scared to death am am feeling very down. I'm trying to keep as "active" as possible. It's been a help to write to several parliamentarians and to complete the consultation.
Remember, too, that scarcely anyone loves this government. The Spring Statement will bring them more enemies. That can work for or against us. Be as proactive as you're able because, governments delight in dividing those they rule.
Remember to rest.
Love, Zipz
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This is exactly the angle they need to see on the consultation.
I also mentioned that, because the Tories spent 15 years cutting services, thus making more of a burden on other aspects of the state. There are people who would not need benefits if their conditions had been supported sooner, but that didn't happen, and now they need support.
Also, the unpopularity of this government is actually something more worrying than positive. It's worrying because it means people have already forgotten what the Tories have spent years doing, or might even fall into Reform's trap and not realise they want rid of all equality legislation. As I said before, this is a mess, but unless we can get a Lib/Green govt in power, it is still the best option for disabled people. Grim as it is, we are better off with this mess which might yet be changed than with Whately "do more damage!" and Farage "no more welfare benefits!".
Please everyone do remember that. Whatever Labour are doing, there are worse options we could sleepwalk into at the next election if we're not on the ball.5 -
I think he was being satirical. He wasn't being serious.
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The media reporting, government and some political parties sitting in Westminster have been toxic towards disabled people.
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Agreed. Anyone that votes Reform are voting for more of the same politics that got us here, whether they realise that or not. Just like Labour 2024 voters.
For disabled people who can't work, moving abroad won't be possible in the majority of cases. Unless things get so dire other countries start accepting British refugees, most disabled people who cant work are stuck here.
I anticipate a lot of younger disabled people who can work will look into leaving the UK as time goes on though. We have no future here. Same with older retirees.
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Pretty much this. These benefit cut proposals - alongside cutting winter fuel allowances - is the beginning of the slow dcecline of the last Labour government in history.
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He is trying to do some weird reverse psychology claiming its immoral to keep vulnerable people out of poverty and that high earning tax payers are somehow more in need.
Economists are now jumping in saying Reeve should be changing the fiscal rules to avoid the cuts, they have said "the uk cant cut its way to growth".1
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