Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    No itโ€™s me too ๐Ÿ˜‚. I can just about email ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 109 Empowering

    Ah awesome thank you! Don't worry, I don't know how to post links on here either!

  • Slonvinton
    Slonvinton Online Community Member Posts: 107 Empowering

    Ive not been impressed with him either, he acts very certain but when Ive checked things with the people the CAB contact for specialist advice stuff was not as clear cut as he made out. I would not trust him or the other woman that does youtubes about PIP.

  • gamer1
    gamer1 Online Community Member Posts: 81 Empowering
    edited March 29

    The welfare state is going to be needed in the future. We are actually lucky we have something like welfare infrastructure many countries do not even have it. Most employment will be going in the future. More than 50% of people will NOT be working in 100-200 years time but there will still be an economy and we will still have to buy things. Employment will be taken over by AI. Almost all employment and businesses and trades you can think of can be taken over by AI. I wonder if the WCA assessor will be AI then?

    People will not work in 100 years time, we are lucky we already have a welfare state that many countries do not and they are trying to destroy it.

  • Amalegra
    Amalegra Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering

    I am thankful that, unlike many people here, I know that my MP is very much against these cuts and has spoken out forcefully about them, mentioning his โ€˜frightened constituentsโ€™. I have written quite a detailed letter to him, which I know has been received, and I imagine many others have too. He is a Labour MP and I only hope that their own MPs being so vocal will get this Labour Government scared. If they want to hold on to power.and thatโ€™s the aim of any governing party isnโ€™t it, they should start listening fast.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,834 Championing

    Predicting the future is a a bit dicey. In the 1970s some academics were predicting a future in which automation was doing most of what we call work, and citizens would have massive amounts of leisure time.

    They also though that with the microchip becoming so cheap to produce, that computers would be handed out for free! Also that nuclear fusion would have been adequately developed, and domestic energy would be very low cost or indeed free.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hopefully someone will post the link for us ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    also watch dynamic duo , Rich knows ppl who work at the DWP and has worked there himself. Another one is the justice journals with a woman called Alison who also worked at DWP and took them to court for discrimination. Politics Joe also has interviews with Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell at the protests . All on YouTube

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    Oh I know exactly who your talking about I get angry as some people take it all in it was joining this group that helped me that guy says he used to be pip assessor and the lady who took on dwp I scroll past even their voices

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,328 Championing

    Oh wow that's like lighting response that really lifted me up thankyou I emailed yesterday I see if did to write people ๐Ÿ˜Š knowing me could be out of Mongolia I check rhankyou

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 354 Pioneering

    Unfortunately stable therapy dosen't exist anymore on the NHS. I hope you're able to handle seeking a therapist again soon, as by going private it's much less likely the therapy will abruptly end.

    It's not okay to go around denying systemic ableism, ust because it dosen't affect you personally. Going after all disabled people is still discrimination.

    Also you are still dependent on the DWP for your flat pension. The vast majority of DWP payments are for pensions, not disability benefits. Or unemployment for that matter.

    And you can fight them. If people gave up fighting against fascist eugenicists that is the UK establishment, change will never happen. Case in point, the original DDA 1995.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 354 Pioneering

    100%. Even if AI wasn't taking over jobs, unemployment is still needed in the economy to keep inflation down while helping circulate the economy via unemployment benefits. Not to mention all the disabled and elderly people getting older and living longer.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    @Catherine21

    That is absolutely brilliant!! Thank you for telling me about Defying Disability song. The lyrics are spot on and she is dressed as the Wicked Witch of the West! That has cheered me up. ๐Ÿคฃ

    You know that it is truly bad when the Chancellor gets lampooned like that though. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    It's hardly going to save money by doing more assessments and disabled people are going to be put in such a bad position that so many more will appeal than have ever done.

    It's self defeating as it will cost more money to deal with all that, totally without the elephant in the room that it costs the state far more to put us even further into poverty than it's going to save. ๐Ÿคฆ

    I've put the actual link ๐Ÿ”— to the video on so hopefully a few others will watch it. ๐Ÿคญ

    https://youtu.be/iBZEx75qZjM?si=CLi7q2440VHaD62L

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 354 Pioneering

    Those 1970s predictions occured before neoliberalism became the dominant ideology in political and media circles. If it wasn't for neoliberalism (and by extension, the fascism that inevitably occurs as neoliberalism further restricts capital), it's quite possible those predictions would be correct.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Online Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    Could we take action against the government for disability discrimination if lose benefits

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    @anon85

    Sadly, ๐Ÿ˜” they sleep very well at night as the have no conscience.

  • silmarillion
    silmarillion Online Community Member Posts: 40 Empowering

    thatโ€™s a bit defeatist! Whilst you could be right, if people organise and make enough noise, they could modify or change things!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 4,732 Championing
    edited March 29

    AppleJacks, hello and welcome to the Scope forum ๐Ÿค—

    As a new member to the forum, you should not be facing this much criticism and judgement for your comments. I understand much of what you're saying. I'm also 60+ without my due benefits but still disabled! If you're a woman then of course you know what discrimination is! ๐Ÿ˜…

    Distractions from today's news, what's everybody doing today?

    I found this thread on Page 12. Perhaps we can revive it.

    ๐Ÿ™‚

    Edit: we did ๐Ÿ˜€ for today at least!

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