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Morning Squirrel 🐿️

I do enjoy our chats too. 😊

That is shocking, although not surprising about your experience with PIP leaving you bedridden. Especially with our condition.

When I went from DLA to PIP about 7-8 years ago, the experience made me a lot more immobile than I'd been too, and further lengthened my periods in bed, quite considerably.

I can see how you compare benefits assessors to judges. In many cases, as you've said, they can become judge AND executioner.😱

You're welcome to the post. 😊 A theory jumped straight into my head that this could be the thin end of a dangerous wedge.

If they want to start ruling that we need 12 points for standard daily living instead of 8 I believe that it's very likely that they will then rule that we would need 16 instead of 12 points for enhanced,

That would then mean that we could end up in an even worse position than if we had to get 4 points in one activity!

It would be well nigh impossible for most people on standard to get 12 points and many people who now get enhanced would be robbed of it! 😳

I don't think that the MPs who are on our side are in the mood to back down with a trick like that. It's being said that they are not going to accept any "tweaks" as they call them.

They are calling for the government to give a consultation that reflects disabled people's views properly and on all the parts of the consultation, not just the ones they think we are allowed to answer, to suit them. 😤

They also want the whole thing postponed until October until all the impact assessments, especially the OBRs have been considered by MPs.

The way I see it, either way, whether it's about getting 4 points for an activity or getting a minimum of 12 to get PIP DL, it will mean that we will all end up losing our benefits however they work it.

They are crafty monsters. 👺 I don't know about a carry on film, it seems like more of a hardcore horror film to me!

I'd be interested to know what you think of my theory. 🤔

she will justify the cuts no doubt

Absolutely right! 😡 The DWP try to override everybody, even top surgeons, in your case.

The DWP have been given too much power and don't they know it! 😤

Well this is interesting, just for info don't want to cause any upset. Hope it works as a cut and pase.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/30/benefits-foreigners-near-cost-1bn-month/

I imagine you were tired out afterwards. I had to make one official call and had to sleep afterwards. Of course I then wake in pain again. I can imagine how fatigued you were afterwards.
Regarding the points system I agree the way it seems to you is worse , though it’s all bad for some. The thing that scares me is the mps voting don’t understand the pip system. For them to be told “ only” 10% will lose pip when it’s clearly the other way around is ridiculous. The original 4 point rule would almost wipe out standard albeit 13% who get the 4 points . I would be among the enhanced 13% who don’t get 4 points so no longer disabled yet currently on enhanced. Your thinking would mean almost all of us losing . Standard no longer existing and only those in the top points of enhanced. They’re determined to leave us with nothing and I don’t think it’s to do with money. They’re throwing money around without worrying apart from when it comes to us . And if they continue to reinstate the WFA( which they should) and scrap the two child limit they won’t save a penny from us in fact it’ll cost them in tribunals. They’re saying they need to bring down the welfare bill but it will increase if anything . Compared to what they’re spending we are talking small amounts . It’s like when they compared pip to pocket money, well to them it is . It’s probably what they claim in expenses each day .