Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November
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My thoughts
I’ve had a read through and amazingly I’m not distressed so it can’t be too horrendous. Mostly it centres on providing support into work, reforming job centres, fixing the NHS. They are to publish a green paper (consultation paper) in the spring to ask disabled people and organisations for their views on reforming disability benefits. They have promised to listen. So, it’ll be a long process before any changes to benefits happen and we will be able to have our say
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I don't understand how they say people with severe mental illnesses into work some people just can't ie myself and loads of us would like to see reassurance but only see work
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So states will help support people with severe MH so my question is Thier handing to job centre councils so say someone with severe mental health harmself or others whilst in workplace who will be liable also will the MR system still be on place
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What I think they are trying to do is to get away of the one size fits all approach, and try and be more flexible in dealing with people, and trying to treat people better than they have been in the past.
I definitely think the job centre does need reforming, it's too centralised, and doesn't take people's needs or circumstances into account, and that's what they said.
The employment minister was on TV this morning saying, don't attack or blame people with mental health issues, it's work that should change, and not people.
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Oh OK thanks
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My opinion, which isn't fact is that many of these reforms will target future incapacity benefit claimants.
Again I have a real problem with this trivializing mental illness. Those people who trivialize it should push for psychiatry to be easily available. Here in Cornwall to obtain psychiatry on the NHS is very rare.
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I agree thier even saying people with severe mental health will be helped into work my question is who would be responsible if someone hurt themselves or anyone else ? I don't trust a word they say to be honest and talking therapies is 6 sessions saying why don't you paint your room also are they waiting to see how goes with ellen clifford
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I'd honestly try not to worry too much about how they've worded things @Catherine21 as they've said before "those that can work, should" and some people with severe mental health issues just wont be able to and they'll know that.
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What does it mean by voluntary employment in this white paper?
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anything worth knowing in it?
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look out for a consultation on disability benefits in the spring
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Meaning something along the lines, you will be supported by the DWP or something along the lines in a volunteer role at a Charity Shop or something.
I think it's aimed at those who would struggle in a normal workplace environment and would thrive in a low pressure environment.
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I also saw that they want to remove the stigma of the job centre, and want it to make it a place where people can be supported, rather than be ashamed in going there and fearing the worst.
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Voluntary would be better because some days I don't know day to day what I be like. Because I'm going to get worse , and a work place I won't be able to cope
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I think that is what the intention is, to try and give the disabled who want a chance, to work in an environment where they can thrive and there isn't much pressure and if they want to go into a normal full time job IF they want to, then DWP or whoever would support them too.
I think it's about giving disabled people an opportunity and a chance.
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I have autism, dyslexia, joint hypermobility syndrome which effects my legs, knees neck, shoulders back , feet wrists fingers and causes digestive problems, bad fatigue where I have to sleep , easy bruising, . Copd , where my symptoms have got worse over a year. On steroids inhaler s, constantly chest infections. The weather throughout the year effects me, fatigue with this . I cannot work. So volunteering may work
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They have to train the jobcentre staff to be human and treat us better.
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Hi all,
Back now and got my digital highlighter
I’m 8 pages in and finding that I’m highlighting a lot
I’m now using an app which allows me to save self highlighted pdf - would readers of this thread be open minded to me posting that instead of screenshots if I end up highlighting too many pages? I’ll see where I am at the end but I can use different coloured highlights to show the really interesting nuggets etc…
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I am happy if they are going to do their own consultation in the spring over disability stuff, because if it's as horrible as the previous, maybe we'll get a chance to comment and the organisations and charities will also be able to put their points across for us too.
I want them to do more about retaining disabled employees, though. My job is local government, many disabled people work in local government, they're talking about LG cuts…my job is temporary and I may well lose it come the spring. I've managed to get work despite being autistic and thus in the lowest employed demographic % of any disabled group…and despite having no support to get it. But with all this going on, I need them to be more aware of people already in employment that may not be secure. What about us? What do we do?
So much focus has been on people being not in work, that I feel like we're being forgotten and there's no point in getting x y z people into work if the same number are losing their jobs through natural wastage and current insecurity.
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They did mention that to be fair, they said all coach will bent sent some sort of coaching thing, that will enable them to support people better, and try and support people with more complex needs
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