Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November
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Hi Albus ,
I think the worry for me who will decide who can’t work ? Will it be the assessors who decide on PIP , ESA,LCWRA . I’ve had a terrible time with them when PIP first started. It wouldn’t be so bad if you were awarded money with no obligation to work while you go through the appeals process. It took my 2 years before and I was left destitute, my conditions became worse and I never recovered. Losing PIP is bad enough now but what happens if/when it’s connected to LCWRA? I physically couldn’t work not even from home due to pain and fatigue among other symptoms. When they say if you can work , it always seems like get out card to me . I hope I’m wrong and I do feel more positive reading the posts on here so thank you it’s much appreciated 🙏
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Here is a very intertesting slant on things from the Benefits and Work website - it is worth reading. It is only an opinion as to what 'might' be in store, but it clearly identifies a narrative from the White Paper as to where we might be heading in terms of the WCA.
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I think we need to be very careful of articles that are just guesswork. Spreading theories around is how ideas by some are then seen as gospel by others. Does that make sense?
I totally understand your worry @secretsquirrel1 Having been through the PIP process several times now, it really is inhumane, but it sounds like the new government are wanting to overhaul things. The problem is we're so stuck with our thoughts that any change will be bad, as that's how it was (mostly) with the previous government. I'm personally trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, as they've been listening to charities, something the previous government failed to do for many many years. I'm hoping it'll all be a bit more bespoke.
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Having read the small article it does not strike me as pure guesswork - it argues its case convincingly and reveals a clear narrative.
It remains an interpretation nonetheless.
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Thanks for the advice I'm going to keep this in mind.
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The Jeremy Vine show this morning was disgusting, saying that unless your in hospital with depression or anxiety you should be ok to work.. They just think depression & anxiety is just normal life worries that people nowadays can't deal with so it becomes an illness, absolute disgrace. I'd love to show my scars to them.. Saying that it's good for mental health to go to work, i understand that & i agree in ways but when all is too much everyone deals differently. A friend i helped with an ATOS appointment a few years ago where she cried her eyes out through it because it was overwhelming because the person doing it was so hard & unsympathetic said it was easier not to be here & deal with it all & that's what nearly happened.. These people have no idea about the severity of mental health for some, so angers me..
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II'm Awaiting adhd test probley silly question you have to be assessed and given the diagnosis before joining this ?
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Iv'e stopped watching shows like that, it jusr angers me and makes me even more poorly. They seem to think it's now okay or normal to put disabled, mentally ill or those less fortunate down all the time because it looks good on tv. These people on shows like that are paid silly money to give their biased and discriminatory views, and actually get away with it on a daily basis without any form of punishment. If they had the same vocal opinions on black, gay, women, or even obese people they would be reprimanded and taken off the air. I also don't believe for a minute they will force any disabled person with either a physical or mental health issue into getting a job, again it;s the right winh media using scare tactics to get clicks online or to get viewing figures because they know it's a popular topic at the moment with their tory readership. Iv'e fought for years against these types of people and their ignorant views and ideas about the disabled, including the DWP saying i was fit for work when it turned out i wasn't after they caused me a near on mental breakdown and a failed suicide attempt. We have plenty of safeguards in place to stop these things happening now so i try not to worry too much about their new policies which most are years off, if they get passed at all!!
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The trouble is with the media and their disgusting flippant remarks about mental health gets it also from that odious cretin Mel Stride who said the same thing.
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How the hell can they do that, I'm ill because I was working it damaged my lungs, I am currently got another chest infection as I'm prone to them now
I won't get better . Find it hard to breathe. They haven't a clue
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I'm sorry we're really tired of the whole thing what it means or others interpretation of what it means. We are at our wits end. We were falsely accused of fraud by the DWP and are now going through endless **** from them. Our car has now gone caput and we can't afford to fix it so we can't go anywhere as both disabled. Both in our 60's no money behind us but don't worry we know this is the situation of many so not sorry for ourselves as we just have to get on with it.
The lessons we took from our son taking his life puts it into perspective, we just need to carry on.
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We will respond to any consultations we will do whatever it takes whether listened to or not. But for now we are despondent and having too many sleepless nights
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I will hold my hand up when I’m in the wrong.
Honestly history (even as recent as the 90s) is not my specialty and I would of been only 10 at the time and not diagnosed
I was winded up by the comment about the consultation responses being pointless and typed in the moment
Also I was only thinking back to the last 15 or so years in terms of the disabled getting ‘concessions’ from a protest
I don’t disagree with protesting at all - as long as it doesn’t cross any lines all ways the disabled can get their voice heard is a good thing
I just wish there where more ways we could be heard
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liz, I don't want to make you feel any worse. I will ask for those posts to be removed. Please accept my apologies and take care 💜
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My husband has just had a huge diabetic hypo due to stress this has to stop
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I'm backing off the forum as at the moment we are going through too much.
We are having a really bad time like everyone.
Sometimes it's not very helpful to us. I looked to it for help and advice now it's become stressful.
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They keep saying September 2025 will start also I feel thier rushing uc as we sign a contract to say we will engage is that correct
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I am so so sorry you have been through so much I'd be on my knees hopefully they get the checks done fast and leave you alone in peace that you deserve and need I'm putting it to the universe that this will be resolved ASAP much love
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Me too I wish you all the best
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lizptsd, community scope has deleted my clumsy comments this morning as requested. They are great like that. I'm also in my 60's though not a pensioner.
I'd forgotten that you've written about losing your son to suicide last year because of the DWP. It's an unimaginable loss and I hope you can forgive me. I'll understand if you can't though.
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