Trigger Warning topic (Assisted dying bill)

whistles
whistles Online Community Member Posts: 1,981 Championing
edited December 2024 in Current affairs

Remove if not allowed.

Are we allowed to discuss the assisted dying bill on here? It's in the news today about Canada. In Canada they intend to include mental illness from 2027. It's quite obvious to me that if we pass anything through, gradually things change and get added by various governments.

I have huge concerns over people feeling a burden, a nuisance and scarily the way this country seems to view the long term sick and disabled, it would save the money they continue to want to save and continue to go on about.

How can you be of sound mind with a mental illness.

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  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 906 Trailblazing

    i imagine this would be the start of the floodgates being left wide open to changes in the law going forward ie life for rapists or murderers or a pill sorted from what i can gather its for people with 6 months or less to live so there not going to be saving that much money as with most things to do with governments theres more than meets the eye

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 1,981 Championing

    I don't see this the same as the dealth penalty. That hadn't been the case in the uk for years, though I believe other countries still have it.

    I see it as a very slippery slope with lax safeguards.

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 906 Trailblazing

    ah time will tell be a fair while yet and you only want 1 mess up and all hell will break out

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,886 Championing

    I see it as sinister I see life for what it is and that The government our not for the people they proved that I find starmer very very sinister the people he's represented over the years shows who he is and yes I worry for this and what is happening to The UK

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 13,109 Championing

    Would an admin be able to put what the topic is about at the top because I think if someone reads trigger warming it would pit them off reading it. It nearly Did for me but I tool the risk and it has paid off because I have a lot to add on this topic.

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 1,981 Championing

    I honestly didn't know what to put in the title. If we are allowed to say in brackets assisted dying bill) that might help, but I didn't want to upset anyone/break any rules by doing so.

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 906 Trailblazing

    i suppose people react in different ways to death and terminal illnesses its sad but a fact of life having been in farming all my life have seen a fair bit with animals we can make the decision to put a sick animal to sleep and at the end of the day thats what we are humans are hell bent on prolonging life then complaining about how much it costs because we are all living longer i personally think this bill will be a very slippery slope

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,682 Championing

    I don't take this bill in any sort of sinister way as it says it's, 'A Bill to allow adults who are terminally ill, subject to safeguards and protections, to request and be provided with assistance to end their own life'

    Please see:

    https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3774

    I think it would have to be medically proven that a person is terminally ill, tho I'm sure some people with some long-term medical conditions/those that are gradually progressive & robbing them of the chance to interact with their loved ones, even to speak/to breathe effectively, etc. may wish it included them.

    I think it will be there for loved ones currently following their partner/spouses wishes that they'd help them to die being protected if this became law rather than facing prosecution.

    I am just considering overwhelming physical problems here as the bill is about those 'terminally ill.'

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 1,981 Championing

    At the moment that is what the bill says. But, if you look at what is happening in other countries, it will be a domino effect imo that will start to include those who are not terminal.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,682 Championing

    I understand the concerns looking at Canada for example, but here in England & Wales, if the bill passes, it's said it will be with the strictest set of rules in the world:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dpwg1lq9yo

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 13,109 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/955062#Comment_955062

    I think that would of been ok I'm not having a go at you as search I just thought it might help that's why I had asked if one the admins can do it.

  • Morgan_Scope
    Morgan_Scope Posts: 660 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hello @whistles. It's fine for you to discuss the assisted dying bill and I've been reading all the comments with interest. I've added some context to the title for you. 🙂

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 1,981 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/955140#Comment_955140

    I know you weren't. I see your point, amin it's okay and amended the title :)

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 1,981 Championing

    Thank you

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