WCA consultation ruled unlawful - White paper, part 2

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  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 560 Pioneering

    Jane please don't take this the wrong way, but your last few posts have put fear of God into me. Have you evidence? I know Catherine 21 also worries about what's happening. So it's better not to speculate until we get the white ,green paper.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing

    one example is in 2016, Damian Green tried to axe the ESA support group, it backfired hugely and it got dropped.

    Something clearly was changed as evidenced by the following -

    The DWP’s public consultation also failed to mention that recent years have seen falling use of the “substantial risk” regulations. 

    One of the DWP’s proposals is to restrict the use of these regulations on the basis that “they are no longer meeting the original intent to be applied only in exceptional circumstances”.

    But an internal graph released by the DWP as part of the judicial review proceedings showed that the proportion of decisions that were due to substantial risk had peaked in 2015 and was now as low as it had ever been back to when the WCA was introduced. This data was available to the DWP but not to the public, and the downward trend of cases was not mentioned in the consultation document.

    The DWP’s plans cut the number of people qualifying for the highest rates of disability benefit via the “limited capability for work or work-related activity” (LCWRA) group.  

    Disabled people in the LCWRA group do not have to undertake any activities related to finding work, whereas those assessed as having “limited capability for work” are expected to undertake activities preparing for employment. 

    Those who don’t qualify as either LCWRA or limited capability for work (LCW) are effectively assessed to be non-disabled

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing
    edited January 17

    The Independent Living Fund was axed in 2015.

    DPAC was formed as a result of this. Ellen Clifford has been banging on since then (as have I).

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    Morgan_Scope Posts: 670 Scope Online Community Coordinator
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing
    edited January 17

    DWP has lost numerous judicial reviews in the High Court.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    @Andi66 I'm so sorry I will try to be more positive and look at the optimistic press and will not comment anymore negative opinion as I can see how sharing my own fear is generating more.I do apologise

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,076 Championing

    Honestly I've made myself so ill but ellen clifford has put a big dent in it so say they go ahead ellen could take them back to court or someone else could it's already been ruled unlawful also sadly for new claimants they will go through that but existing claimants it will be years i reckon thier aiming for 2029 best laid plans and we ALL must write on the consultation I was the same reading all articles piecing it all together we have maybe 4 years who knows what will happen in life before then this has given me constant headaches face breaking out in sores no energy bed rotting no yesterday a good day thier also getting taken court over winter fuel payments and private school cuts people are fighting back I think it's amazing if ellen lost yesterday god they would be like the anti@@@@@ i believe if they do go ahead someone will take them on again

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,076 Championing

    Oh really didn't know that

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,076 Championing
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing

    UC describes us as "disabled jobseekers"

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing

    There will be a new consultation but this time with the facts in front of us thanks to EC.

    When they took office a few months ago, Labour published all the buried reports which DWP and the Tories did not want us to see.

    We need to separate fact from fiction because none of this is new.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing

    The cap on claimant numbers migrating to UC was lifted and the UC programme accelerated in May 2024.

    I don't know what this PM can do to stop any of it. A cabinet reshuffle is our best hope.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 447 Empowering

    Yes as many have said there is hope and whilst there is we must not give up as what is right always wins through ultimately in the end.Its easy to get despondent as I have been and perhaps that's what they want.But we must keep the faith

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing

    the proportion of decisions that were due to substantial risk had peaked in 2015and was now as low as it had ever been back to when the WCA was introduced (2008)

    We still need to understand what impact the 2016 Welfare Reform and WORK Act had on the assessment process and benefits decisions.

    Ellen Clifford has ensured this farce won't be forgotten or buried under "new rules".

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 560 Pioneering

    I wish esa migration would be pushed back, especially as they are now dealing with pension credit influx.

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Online Community Member Posts: 93 Empowering

    I think personally any changes they try and do won't take place till the next government anyway, which wont be Labour, it will be a Reform government, and godness knows there plans.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 82 Empowering

    Labour want to cut that 3 billion the Tories pledged to cut, it's baked into treasury numbers.

    So how are they going to do it?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,076 Championing

    Ah I see yes you was saying this a while back just wondering how made it with the changes back then my last lwcra assignment was 2020

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,076 Championing

    What's a cabinet reshuffle sorry to keep asking

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,120 Championing
    edited January 17

    Firing or moving ministers to new departments.