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@JasonRA

Tweaks or not, it will still be devastating for far too many people. They will say it's not destitution. My partner, a full-time carer to his mother, receives just over £100 per week. His share of their joint-tenancy rent is paid, and he receives council tax support but is still responsible for water/sewage charges from his £100pw.

Beyond that, nothing - not a bean from UK Govt. Scottish Govt. provides a Carers' supplement of about £10pw - paid twice yearly.

£100pw to me is destitution in today's climate. Starmer/Kendall/Reeves/Timms consider it ample on which to live.

I'm astounded at the lack of reaction from Trades' Unions about this, as their members are the future claimants who will find themselves in our position as a result of one illness, one condition, one accident.

It's beyond cruel @secretsquirrel1. Liz Kendall and Co are still hell bent on getting these proposals through.

Remember when pip first came in and people died , this will be far worse

The back benchers who’ve waited 14 years must know they won’t be voted in again in their lifetime with starmer . They need to get rid of him to save themselves if not for us

Dont know about anyone else but , .....that says to me that the areas that they haven't consulted on , such as the pip and scrapping the wca and using pip as one assessment , will be debated in parliament , then amendments will be suggested and then it will go to a vote 🤷 so surely with all the controversy and doubt over these reforms by so many of there own MPs and other party's , lib Dems , greens etc that there will have to be amendments made .... I wouldn't count on the Tories to vote against these though once there being debated in parliament as the only reason they are said to be voting against them now is to cause labour headaches ... Still more than enough push back without the Tories to get tweaks ....

I know , the most vile kind of hypocrisy , they shouted from the rafters about it when opposing it

It's all politics, isn't it. The Tories themselves were planning, ultimately, even more severe cost-cutting to benefits, but since they tanked to become 4th behind even the Lib Dems in popularity, they're changing their tune to make it look like they're friends of the disabled. Mel Stride was the worst, back then! Equating all mental health issues to be feeling "a bit down and bluesy" ffs! He banged on and on about slashing PIP and LCWRA, and now he's accusing Labour of cost cutting and not getting reform right? This sounds to me like the Tories are planning to vote against, as hoped. I wasn't sure the other day when Hunt suddenly whirred awake and said his nasty piece, but despite that, with this statement from Stride deliberately timed to make Kendall look inept today, I get the feeling they'll go for her in the vote. And his comment will not have escaped her notice!

The Cons want to cut harder. I wouldn't look for hope from that lot.