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Sky news
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So what does any of this mean to existing claimants currently being reassessed?
Are we classed as new claimants or keep our current awards?
Confused.com
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Future claimants, however, will be subject to the PIP four-point rule and to the reduction in the LCWRA element of UC.''
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whether this is in 2029 or starting next year with a re-assessment before 2029, all rather confusing
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You sum up very well what I cant just now MW, its rubbish and we know it. All the main pieces are still there, plus there is absolutely no clarification of existing claimants v what happens at re assessment and what that means for any of us.
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existing claimants will continue to be assessed on the current criteria. New claims, I.e never claimed before or if you lose your current award after review and you claim again will have the 4 point’s criteria after 2026.
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From the dynamic duo . Rich is ex dwp and what he’s written is the way I read the concessions to mean . Obviously nothing is official from the government yet. I’m not convinced he’ll get it through anyway tbh
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So nothing changes Martnip. Still going to be persecuted and still being hoodwinked.
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It says it only affects new claimants, surely the people applying for the first time.
If you're being reassessed your not a new claimant which is why you still keep getting paid whilst being reassessed.
If your a new claimant you don't get paid until you've been awarded. How it seems to me anyway
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I know exactly how you feel Sarah , I begged my last assessor why am I always being assessed when there’s no cure . She was knowledgeable of my conditions and had my medical notes . Awarded me two years , dwp even knew it was too short and awarded 3 . My review forms on its way to me and I just migrated over to uc . One thing after another. But I do read this as those on pip get reassessed on the current system. So no change for us . I still think it needs voting down though as it’s two tier and not fair
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I've just seen on YouTube that the rebels are not happy with the concessions! And are still
to fight on!
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Hey everyone. Head on over to silver fox's channel on YouTube! It's not over till it's over! 😀
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That’s what I think . I think there are short awards 1 year or perhaps 2 I’m not sure and when they come to an end you have to apply a fresh claim. It’s not the same as those who get reviewed . We also don’t know the finer details yet , hopefully there’s protection for those who move address etc and gave change of circumstances, but it does seem it’s for new claimants which still isn’t fair
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I hope this is the case but I have no faith in any of it. I don't trust what we are told v what will/might happen, Guess we will just have to see how this pans out for all of us.
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Morning MW,
What I meant and probably wasn’t clear as my pain and fatigue bad was that information is coming out today . Right now it’s just the outlines . There are other protections we need to tell MPs about as they don’t understand pip.
The 13 week concession was already in the table and I don’t think this is the same . As I read it if those of us currently on pip come up for review we will be assessed under the current rules even after next November ( if it even passes) . Obviously that’s one thing I want to write to MPs about , what about a change of circumstances ie you may move address . Will your claim go with you . I imagine there’ll be finer details. But unless you lose pip and fail at MR and tribunal and upper tier if they’ve erred in law you keep under the rules as they are now . They know charities and activists will be going over it and I would think Starmer is worried now . As it is it’s still not guaranteed that it will pass . I wouldn’t be surprised if Tory’s vote against to scupper Starmer and say it’s due to the cuts being even lower .
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Morning Catherine,
It’ll be interesting to see the full concessions today ie change of circumstances having an affect. I’ll wait to see what the full concessions are and then send emails. Apparently sky have been told that the names on the amendment could still increase as not all MPs are happy. I wonder if Tory’s will vote against now as it isn’t going far enough
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Hi passerby ,
I still don’t understand how to do it 😂. One minute guardian lets me view and then it says I’ve reached my free limit and offers me subscription choices. I can find anything that says URL and don’t know what that is 🤷♀️😂
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If this doesn't affect existent claimants then why waste money reassessing?
That my mind tells me it does affect us, otherwise they would just leave us alone.
Of course we will continue being persecuted by being reassessed.
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Its very difficult to keep up as so many members are posting new threads about these issues, rather than posting here and keeping it all in one place.
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This doesn't help the thousands still waiting to transfer from DLA to PIP because of the backlog. What will they do if they have any mass application to transfer?
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