Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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If they deny me it I will write thier discriminating me when I filled my recent pip forms I wrote do not lie I also wrote you do not follow the Equality Act I wrote everything from the trauma the assessment give me I didn't hold back I was raging filling the form in I put forms in July 2024 got paperbased this month do not be scared to write your truth
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I think it's a great idea
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Saw an article on X by Peter Stefanovic saying that MP's are going to vote on disability cuts without knowing 'full impact'. This is getting more concerning.😳
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I found this link to the Dignity Declaration in an excellent article in The Canary by Jeremy Corbyn, who is a signatory. 😊
I've signed it myself and wondered if it would be of interest to anyone here. 🤔
It's part of a project to get an left wing nationwide political party under way, to give people like us a proper alternative to vote for instead of elitist and right wing parties who try so hard to misrepresent us so they can take what little we have away.
https://thedignitydeclaration.co.uk/
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If half the uk are on benefits, then this hasn't been thought through .
Everyone of us pay vat and tax on everything just the same as those working . So cutting our money off is only got to make it worse , we have no money , we don't shop etc .
Reading some of the comments on some of the news reports are absolutely nasty, I am sure a lot of us never thought we would be disabled , so those calling us lazy scroungers should think about what they are saying , nobody knows what is around the corner , every one could end up disabled at some point .
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I only watch him , I wasn't impressed with Noah she seems to think the cuts are a good thing .
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can I ask peoples honest opinions on whether the government will actually succeed in getting this through ? And succeeding against human right challenges ?
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Yes absolutely I found that too . Only Noah and Phil on A different bias were all for Labour and the cuts. Now Phil has even spoken out as originally he said Labour wrote the cuts would be made solely by tackling fraud. But Noah definitely is all for the reforms. I also watch the justice journals with Alison , she used to work at dwp and took them to court .
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Even if you have a lot of voters you have to win the constituency seats. That's why Reform only won a few seats with 4 million votes. It's not impossible but it would need a very big movement and very careful planning to win it.
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I think they will definitely get it through, I’d say 50/50 for the legal challenge
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I honestly don't know - it could go either way
If it does - Labour definitely will not win the next GE and will be out of power for decades
But what are the alternatives ?
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Dear Holly, could I just point out, that according to Scope's comprehensive details, it is in fact not 'all disabled' who need to apply to PIP, i.e. the UC health element will only be needing to be applied for for contributory-based i.e. former ESA / transitioning CONTRIBUTORY i.e. recently employed for by PIP and the WCA still holds for non-contributory health elements according to scope's own comprehensive definition. Glad I read those details first before getting myself all panicked. Thank you
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Labour are a 75% working class cabinet and they are going to vote in the worst reform in HISTORY for the poorest in society and disabled people. They should be embarrassed with themselves. The people did not vote for this.
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I think it will get voted through they have enough of a parliamentary majority even if all the opposition party members voted against ( which they won't ) there are not enough Labour MP's with integrity to stand against the Leadership. It will be voted through and enshrined into law. Hopefully there will be court challenges due to the OBR not publishing the full impact statement before the vote. Also breach of equality law may be grounds for legal challenges but legal challenges take time and may not be resolved before the implementation of the Green paper in 2026.
If I had any advice it would be to make sure you go to your GP as much as possible to keep on top of health issues to keep a paper trail of appointments, blood tests, scans, physio, hospital appointments, hospital stays ect. If you are under a mental health care team, again keep a paper trail of your appointments and have as much evidence as possible to present when your PIP review is due.
Get to know somebody at your GP practice so they know your health needs and your condition and give them as a contact on your PIP renewal form. ( I know it is not always easy to have continuity of care ) do the best you can to see the same GP, you can ask your GP to make your next appointment when you see them and explain you feel comfortable seeing them and would like continuity of care if possible. It is what I have done with my own GP and she books my next appointment when I see her. Obviously if an emergency appointment I have to take whoever is free but try and build a relationship if possible so they can advocate on your behalf to the DWP.
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Could you post a link for the justice journals with Alison please ?
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Is it possible to download an app on your phone, some GP's offer online services now where you can book appointments in advance. I am so sorry you are unable to get appointments I can't imagine how hard it must be for you and worrying. I am in South Yorkshire and I can't say a bad word about my GP they are really good but I know it isn't the case everywhere in the UK ( it should be, but isn't and the disparity in care is so unfair ) my Mum and Sister live in London and my mum really struggles to get appointments despite having poorly controlled diabetes and issues associated with it and ends up going to the walk in centre instead. I only mention the app as my mum recently got it for her practice and can now book appointments usually a few weeks in advance.
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Hi Sarah , sorry but I have no idea how to . But if you type in the justice journals you’ll find her . She also gave a deep dive about the pip changes .
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No problem , I did type it in but it isn't coming up . I'll keep looking thank you .
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oh I don’t know why it isn’t coming up . I just typed in the justice journals and it was the first thing that came up
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